Interview with A P Usthad

April 17, 2010

When luminaries from the Beary community had gathered on the second day of the World Beary convention organised by the Beary Cultural Forum, Dubai, a prominent non Beary personality stole the limelight all the way. It was none other than Shaik Abubakkar Ahmad or the more familiar A P Usthad. The reason for his presence over there and the kind of respect and admiration he received is rather simple. A large section of Mangalorean Muslims have always held him in such high esteem that every major religious and social gathering would crave for his luminous presence. No wonder he was accorded the red carpet welcome at the World Beary Meet.

A P Ustthad envisioned the formation a Markaz for the propagation of Islamic culture and education even during his college days at Vellore Baqiyathussalihaat. He earned his Moulvi Fazil degree from Baqiyathussalihaat in 1964 and worked as Mudarrris in some Masjids in Kerala. In 1978, barely after 14 years after his education, he was able to establish the Islamic cultural and Education Centre – Markazussakafathissunniyya – which has now emerged as a one of the foremost seats of Islamic learning in the world. The Markaz grew from strength to strength exactly as he had envisioned it. At present a total of approximately 10,000 students are studying in this Markaz including 1,500 orphans. They come from different parts of India, including Kashmir and Haryana. The institution does not charge a penny either from orphans or poor students for their food, clothes, accommodation and medical expenses. It is estimated that the institution’s daily budget is around SR25, 000 which is raised through donations by philanthropists all over the world. The Al- Azhar University of Cairo has extended its recognition to the degree awarded by the Markaz. It is one those Islamic seats of learning in India which hosts frequent International seminars, symposiums and workshops on subjects ranging from Islamic studies to burning issues of modern days like terrorism. The Institution enjoys the frequent visits by renowned Islamic scholars of various countries of the world.

The philanthropic activities carried out by AP Usthad are exemplary in nature. The orphanages that run either directly under his supervision or under his patronage, adopt poor and orphan students of both sex and provide them with free food, accommodation and education until they are able to sustain themselves on their own. The orphanage set up inside the Markaz Campus itself shelters more than a thousand orphan students. In addition, the Markaz under the leadership of AP Usthad has undertaken special projects to look after the people affected by natural calamities and riots. The children orphaned by earthquake in Andaman and Nicobar Islands and some provinces in India and Pakistan were adopted and sheltered by AP Usthad in his Markaz. He travelled across Kashmir to bring home hundreds of students who were either orphaned or denied education due to internal strife in Kashmir. He is also a social reformer and activist. He endeared himself to the people across India in general and Kerala in particular by leading various campaigns for the cause of national integration, anti terrorism etc.

The versatile and dynamic personality of AP Usthad could be understood from his involvement in various national and international activities

Seminar and Conferences attended by him:

Presided over various Islamic conferences conducted all over India on various occasions.

He has been attending the International Islamic Conference held by Islamic Supreme Council of The Arab Republic of Egypt almost every year since 1990.

In the year 1996 he attended the First International Unity Conference held in Los Angeles, U.S.A and delivered a lecture on Religious Harmony in India.

In the same year he attended an International Seminar held in British Columbia, Canada.

In the year 1998 he attended the Second Islamic Unity Conference held in Washington D.C, U.S.A.

In the Year 1999, A P Usthad participated in the Inaugural ceremony of Masjid Abee Ubaidah Al Jarrah in Jordan and the Seminar on Importance of Prophetic Teachings.

In the year 2000 he attended the International Islamic Conference held in Sri Lanka

In the Year 2001 he attended the Islamic Conference held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

In the year 2003 he attended the International Fiqh Seminar, held in Johannesburg, South Africa

In the year 2004 he attended the Hasanyya lectures conducted in Morocco by His Majesty the King of Morocco.

He has been accorded with 'Special Guest' invitation continuously for the past several years in the years by the President of the United Arab Emirates in the Holy month of Ramadan.

Awards and Felicitations:

Award for the best social worker in the world by Darul Islam Academy, Rasal Khaima, UAE in 1992.

Indian Islamic Centre Award 2000 for the best social cultural and educational worker in India.

International Islamic Personality Award by Indo Arab Foundation UAE in 2006.

Excerpts from the interview taken by Coastaldigest team with A P Usthad during the World Beary Convention:

As section of Mangalorean Muslims considers you an integral part of their religious affairs and the term A P Usthad is familiar word in every household. How do you relate your special relation with Mangalore?

Usthad: History tells that Mangalore has always been considered a part of Malabar. Hence people of Malabar have kept a special relationship with Mangalore. After the formation of linguistic states, Mangalore became a part of Karnataka. But spiritually Mangalorean Muslims have always associated themselves with the rest of Malabar. People of Mangalore understand Malyalam. So, we have been able to deliver religious education and discourses in Mangalore region and reach them powerfully. People of Mangalore love us, and we love them too.

Could you please tell us something about your education system?

Usthad: Islamic community is being pushed down as backward community everywhere. In such a scenario, only education can bring us forward. To know religion and follow it, we need Islamic education. At the same time the worldly education of is also highly essential. The Ambiyas, Awuliyas and scholars of Islamic age were all educated in the worldly knowledge and necessities of their time. With this intention, I started Markazussakafathissunniyya in 1978. This was the fulfillment of my desire which I had when I came out of Vellore Baqiyaathussalihath. We have aligned Islamic education and worldly education to suit the need of the hour. Under the Markaz banner we started to spread education to districts of Kerala and later we started spreading it in rest of India. Now it is running with great success.

The fundamentals and jurisprudence of Islam cannot be changed. We have not changed anything of these. However, it is the demand of the generation to make Islamic education system respond to the present day necessities. In order to incorporate modern professional technical needs we have brought changes in the education provided in the Madrasas. Islamic history shows the example that style of education could be changed based on the need of the hour.

It is a fact that the kind of organized primary religious education system in Kerala is unique in India. We learn through media that you have a vision to spread the similar kind of religious education system to entire India. Could you please tell us about it?

Usthad: It is not appropriate to say the sound Islamic education system of Kerala emanated from our side only. Many a great ‘Aalims’ of our time and bygone era have contributed a lot to set up religious education system in Kerala. However, with the establishment of Markaz and our own education system, we have understood the importance of the modern day education to deal with present day worldly necessities. Hence, we have propagated the philosophy of modern school education along with Islamic education. When Computer and Internet are the order of the day (Now it is said that we are going out of internet world to something new) we will lag behind if we don’t extract benefits out of it. In the past, to search a particular hadith we had to literally turn each page of the book, but now computers are helping us do the same by simply typing a word or a phrase from it. Hence we have started an education board called IEBI ( Islamic Education Board of India) that has worked successfully in Kerala and now we are focusing on the rest of India and achieving success in many places.

The Markaz is emerging as a University under your leadership. Could you please shed more light on the same?

Usthad: The Markaz was not established for anybody’s personal gain. In the past 33 years, I have continuously travelled across the world to collect funds for this organization but I have not taken a single Rupee as commission for my effort. Even those who do from outside also don’t take commission. There is no scope for commission at all. And everybody who works for the progress of the Markaz does it purely to earn favors from Allah (SWT). This is the basic success mantra of the Markaz.

The progress of Markaz is mainly because of the amalgamation of religious and worldly education. Students can complete the highest stage of both education under one roof in an Islamic environment. Hence, Muslim students seeking both education ( worldly and Islamic) are flocking to Markaz in great number each year

The other reason is that Markaz has blessings from all righteous people and scholars from all over the world. I have brought eminent scholars of our time to Markaz time and again and their ‘ Duas’ are with us

It is learnt that Moulvi education provided at Markaz is fused (Joined together as a whole) with Worldly education to cope with the demands of present generation. Could you tell us about it?

Usthad: We have aligned Moulvi education with modern needs. Most of the Moulvi graduates of Markaz in recent years are also proficient in English and other languages such as Urdu. Many of them are competent to impart religious education in English Language. As a result many Moulvi graduates from the Markaz are able to get jobs in countries like American Canada, S Africa and Malaysia and Middle East. Even within in India, they are able to get jobs because of the quality of education provided here in the Markaz. Each year more than 500 students go out either as religious scholars or other degree holders and everybody gets job.

What do you say about the practice of dowry system among Muslims?

Usthad: Dowry system is a menace to the Islamic society. It must be eradicated. We have organized many campaigns against it and many more are planned in the coming years. Each year the outgoing students and Moulvis of the Markaz pledge against the dowry system and vow to work against the dowry system.

Mangalore city needs a centre like your Markaz and you have emphasized such need in many of your speeches in recent times. Is there any effort being done from your side to start a seat of higher Islamic learning in Mangalore city?

Usthad: We have a plan to start one such centre in Mangalore and an effort is being done now. Our organization and the Markaz had worked closely with Mangalorean philanthropists and scholars to construct the recently opened Masjid Thaqwa. The Masjid Thaqwa committee is in constant touch with me and we have are in search of a suitable location for the establishment of a seat of higher learning in Mangalore.


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Ram Puniyani
July 20,2020

As Covid 19 has created havoc all rounds, the rulers of certain countries are using it to further intensify their set agendas. The democratic freedoms are being curtailed in certain forms, the reaction to which has come in America in the form of a campaign, which is opposing “stifling” cultural climate that is imposing “ideological conformity” and weakening “norms of open debate and toleration of differences”. In India similar intimidations have been intensified. In addition the occasion has been used by the sectarian forces first to link the spread of Corona to Muslim community and now in the name of reducing the burden of curriculum certain chapters on core concepts related to Indian nationalism are being deleted from the text books.

It has been reported that chapters on federalism, citizenship, nationalism, secularism, Human Rights, Legal Aid and Local Self Government and the like are being dropped. Education has been an important area for communal forces and they constantly keep saying that leftists have dominated the curriculum content, it suffers from the impact of Macaulay, Marx and Mohammad and so needs to be Indianized. The first such attempt was done when BJP came to power in 1998 as NDA and had Murli Manohar Joshi as the MHRD minister. He brought the changes which were termed as ‘saffronization of education’. Their focus is more on social science. Some of the highlights of this were introduction of subjects like Astrology and Paurohitya, and chapters defending caste system, nationalism of the type of Hitler was praised.

With defeat of NDA in 2004, the UPA did try to rectify some of these distortions. Again after 2014 the RSS affiliates working in the area of education have been active, interacting with MHRD officials to impress upon them the need to change the curriculum matching with their Hindu nationalist agenda. Its ‘Shiksha Sanskriti Utthan Nyas’ has been asking for removal of English, Urdu words in the texts. It has asked for removal of thoughts of Rabindranath Tagore on Nationalism, extracts of autobiography of M F Husain, references to benevolence of Muslim rulers, references to BJP being Hindu party, apology of Dr. Manmohan Singh for anti Sikh pogrom of 1984, the reference to killings of Gujarat carnage in 2002 among others. This they call as Bhartiykaran of syllabus.

As RSS is a multithreaded hydra one of its pracharak Dinanath Batra has set up ‘Shiksha Bachao Abhiyan Samiti’ which has been pressurizing various publishers to drop the books which are not conforming to their ideology. One recalls their pressuring withdrawal of Wendy Doniger’s ‘The Hindus’, as it does present the ancient India through the concerns of dalits and women. Mr. Batra has already come out with a set of nine books for school curriculum, giving the RSS view of the past and RSS understanding of social sciences. These have already been translated into Gujarati and thousands of the sets of these books are being used in Gujarat Schools.

The present step of deleting parts of curriculum which gives the basics of Indian Nationalism, secularism and human rights is a further step in the same direction. These are the topics which have made the Hindu nationalists uncomfortable during last few years. They have been defaming secularism. They removed it from the preamble of Indian constitution, when they put out an ad on the eve of Republic day in 2015. From last few decades since the Ram Temple movement was brought up, simultaneously the secular ethos of India’s freedom movement and secular values of Indian constitution have been constantly criticized. Many an RSS ideologues and BJP leaders have been asking for change of Indian Constitution for this very reason.

Secularism is part of the concept of Indian nationalism. In the name of religious nationalism, sectarian divisive nationalism they have been attacking various student leaders in particular. When we study Nationalism, the very genesis of Indian nationalism tells us the plurality of our freedom movement with its anti colonial roots. The struggle was for Indian nationalism and so the Muslims and Hindu communalists kept aloof from this great struggle against colonial masters, it was this struggle which built the Indian nation with all its diversity.

Similarly as we have equal rights as citizens the chapters on citizenship are being dropped. Federalism has been the core part of India’s administrative and political structure. As the dictatorial tendencies are becoming stronger, federalism is bound to suffer and that explains the dropping of this subject. Democracy is decentralization of power. Power reaching the lowermost part of the system, the villages and average citizens. This got reflected in Local self Government. The power is distributed among villages, cities, state and center. By removing chapters on federalism and local self government, the indications of the ideology of ruling party are on display.

While we are not dealing with all the portents of the planned omissions, one more aspect that related to dropping of chapter on Human rights needs our attention. The concept of Human rights and dignity are interlinked. This concept of Human rights also has international ramifications. India is signatory to many an UN covenants related to Human rights. The indications are clear that now rights will be for the few elite and ‘duties’ for the large deprived sections will be put on the forefront.

In a way this incidental ‘Corona gifted opportunity’ to the ruling Government is being fully used to enhance the agenda of ruling party in the arena of Educational Curriculum. The part of curriculum with which the ruling party is uncomfortable is being removed. This act of omission does supplement their other acts of commission in changing the shape of educational curriculum, which are reflected in RSS affiliates’ suggestions to MHRD regarding Bhartiyakaran of contents of syllabus. As per this the things like regarding the great epics like Ramayana and Mahabharata as History, the things like India having all the stem cell technology, plastic surgery, aviation science etc. will have a place in the changes planned by communal forces!

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Ram Puniyani
February 29,2020

Like most of the political phenomenon, even the practice of Nationalism is not a static one. It changes with the changing political equations of the political forces and assumes the expressions which are very diverse. As such the phenomenon of Nationalism has a long journey and various state policies in particular have used it for purposes which relate more to the power of the state ‘vis a vis’ its people, power of the state ‘vis a vis’ the neighboring countries among others.

In India there has been a certain change in the practices of the state which have transformed the meaning of Nationalism during last few years. Particularly with BJP, the Hindu Nationalist outfit gaining simple majority, it has unfolded the policies where one can discern the drastic change in the meaning and application of Nationalism in regard to its citizens, particularly those belonging to minority community, with regard to those who are liberal, and with those who stand with the concept of Human rights.

Our former Prime Minister of Dr. Manmohan Singh hit the nail on the head when he said that “Nationalism and the "Bharat Mata Ki Jai" slogan are being misused to construct a "militant and purely emotional" idea of India that excludes millions of residents and citizens. Former Prime Minister recently stated this in an apparent attack on the BJP.” The occasion was the release of a book, ‘Who is Bharat Mata’, edited by Purushottam Agarwal and Radhakrishna. This is a compilation of significant extracts from writings of Nehru, and important assessments of and contributions of Nehru by prominent personalities.

Dr. Singh went on to add "With an inimitable style…Nehru laid the foundation of the universities, academies and cultural institutions of Modern India. But for Nehru's leadership, independent India would not have become what it is today," This statement of Dr. Singh has great importance in contemporary times, as Nehru is being denigrated by Hindu nationalists for all the problems which India is facing today and attempts are on to undermine his role and glorifying Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel. This is also significant as it gives us the glimpses of what Nationalism meant for Nehru.

As Singh’s statement captures the present nationalism being practiced by BJP and company, the Hindu nationalists, immediately shot back saying that Dr. Singh is supporting the anti India activities at JNU and Jamia and his party is supporting the anti India nationalists. They asked whether Singh likes the nationalism of the likes of Shashi Tharoor or Manishankar Ayer who are provoking the Shaheen Bagh protest rather than making the protestors quiet. Whether he likes the anti national protests which go on at JNU or Jamia? As per them there is no Nationalism in Congress. One more example being cited is the private visit of Shatrughan Sinha who talked to Pakistani President during his visit there recently!

Most of the arguments being used to oppose Dr. Singh are very superficial. What is being referred to; is not opposition to Indian nationalism and its central values which were the core of anti colonial struggles. While ‘Bharat Mata Ki Jai’ may not be acceptable to a section of population, even the book he was releasing has the title ‘Who is Bharat Mata’. What is being stated by Singh is the twist which slogan ‘Bharat Mata ki Jai’ has been used by Hindu nationalists to frighten the religious minorities.

Indian nation came into being on the values, which later were the foundation of Indian Constitution. Indian Constitution carefully picked up the terminology which was away from the concepts of Hindu or Muslim nationalism. That’s how the country came to be called as ‘India that is Bharat’. The freedom of expression which was the hallmark of freedom movement and it was given a pride of place in our Constitution. It respected the diversity and formulated rules where the nation was not based on particular culture, as Hindu nationalists will like us to believe, but cultural diversity was centrally recognized in the Constitution. In addition promoting good relations with neighbors and other countries of the World was also part of our principles.

JNU, Jamia and AMU are being demonized as most institutions so far regard the freedom of expression as a core part of Indian democracy. These institutions have been thriving on discussions and debates which have base in liberalism. Deliberately some slogans have been constructed to defame these institutions. While Constitution mandates good relations with neighbors, creation of ‘Anti Pakistan hysteria’ is the prime motive of many a channels and sections of other media, which are servile to the ideology of ruling Government. They also violate most of the norms of ethical journalism, where the criticism of the ruling party is an important factor to keep the ruling dispensation in toes.

A stifling atmosphere has been created during last six years. In this the Prime Minster can take a detour, land in Pakistan to have a cup of tea with Pakistan PM, but a Congress leader talking to Pakistani President is a sign of being anti National. Students taking out a march while reading the preamble of Indian Constitution are labeled as anti-national; and are stopped while those openly wielding guns near Jamia or Shaheen Bagh roam freely.

Nationalism should promote amity and love of the people; it should pave the way for growth and development. Currently the nationalism which is dominant and stalking the streets has weakened the very fraternity, which is one of the pillars of our democracy. Nehru did explain that Bharat Mata is not just our mountains, rivers and land but primarily the people who inhabit the land. Which nationalism to follow was settled during the freedom movement when Muslim nationalism and Hindu nationalism were rejected by the majority of people of India in favor of the Nationalism of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel and Maulana Azad, where minorities are equal citizens, deserving affirmative action. In today’s scenario the Hindu nationalists cannot accept any criticism of their policies.

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