Pakistan is not hell; we should not hate... I won't apologize for my views: Ramya

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August 23, 2016

Bengaluru, Aug 23: Actress-turned-politician Ramya, who exposed the double standard of saffron forces while dealing with Pakistan, has made it clear that she would not apologies for saying that Pakistan is not hell.

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“I respectful disagree, but Pakistan is not hell,” reiterated the former Mandya MP and Congress leader, today, after news broke that a lawyer has filed a complaint against her in court, asking a case of sedition be filed against her.

Ramya said she won't apologize, either, as she has no reason to, and hasn't done anything wrong.

"I don't have any ego at all and in any given incident, I would have apologised, but if I do in this case, the larger cause we're fighting for would go," Ramya explained.

The Kannada actress - whose real name is Divya Spandana - first indicated she thinks Pakistan may not quite be hell, when she recently addressed a women's rally in Mandya.

Some people protested because they believed her statements were a direct response to a comment Union Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar made last week when he equated visiting Pakistan with visiting hell.

A pro-BJP lawyer in Kodagu has registered a civil case against Ramya under IPC sections 124 (A) and 511 - the first one is to do with sedition.

"It's really sad that there is such a situation in the country today…Politicians want to polarise and spread hatred. Just because borders separate us we shouldn't hate others" Ramya said told a news agency, referring to the complaint filed against her.

"I'm free to express myself, am I not? Everyone is entitled to their views and that is what democracy is about. You can't force your ideology on anyone," Ramya said.

"It's freedom of speech, it's also our duty to speak on inclusiveness and peace. Curbing freedoms is wrong in democracy," she added.

The former popular actress had at the rally talked about Pakistan's hospitality. At the time she had just returned from visiting Pakistan for the SAARC Youth Summit.

On August 16, Parrikar reportedly said: "Our soldiers sent back five terrorists yesterday. Going to Pakistan is the same as going to hell," Parrikar said, according to ANI. "Pakistan has encouraged terrorism, and now they are facing consequences of that policy," he also said.

Twitter juxtaposed the two comments and all hell broke loose. Ramya was trolled. And then a gentleman from a Karnataka village took it upon himself to save the nation from anyone saying good things about Pakistan.

"I went there (Pakistan) for the SAARC Youth Summit. I spoke about peace, harmony and unity in diversity. When I got back, I was asked how Pakistan was and I said that the people there are just like us, and that we were treated very well. There was a lot of respect," Ramya had responded yesterday.

The Congress member repeated several times today that she stands by what she said. "I don't think I'm wrong. I also love Bangladesh, Sri Lanka. Of course I won't leave India, it's my home and I am not going to leave my dogs," Ramya said, clearly stating her priorities.

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abdul khader
 - 
Wednesday, 24 Aug 2016

There is nothing wrong about the sentence which she said. she told for the helpening nature of the pakistani peoples

Sameer
 - 
Wednesday, 24 Aug 2016

Naren, guruwe ishtu dina nim sahodarana murder aith alwa awaga ellidiya? Yako comment madilla? Current irlilwa magu? Eevaga nev harsida deshada hesru banth alwa adkey bandi ya neenu?

Abbu Beary
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Oho hauda naren Putta?? yenu ivathu sanje comment maadtha iddi ? Bitti enne siglilva? aa mele go saagata mugitha? HJV kadeyavru nodidra... adirli aa \hara hara jai jai\" nimmannella anti-social element antha karedu bitnalla!!... che che.."

Naren kotian
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Pakistanis in Mangalore started expressing love towards their country ..after all it is ISI which funds their third rated jihadi activities against india in the name of smuggling killings and terrorism ..hahaha...nowonder khangrace favours and she is sticking to her words ...becoz Muslims vote avrige beku ...if she start blaming pak ..votes sigalla .haha

Ramya fan
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Why should Ramya hate Pakistan? She is abused only and only by Sangh Parivar activists. Are they Pakistanis?

She will hate only those who are trying to destroy India and constantly targeting Indian women and calling all true indians as anti-nationals.

Rikaz
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

She appreciated Pakistani people....nothing wrong in it....

fathima
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Ramya spoke about normal pakistanis,how they treated her.There is nothing wrong in it.We as Indian should be tolerant towards our neighbours.Polarising this issue makes us very weak and insecure.The way she was interviewed in NDTV .Her answers were crisp and to the point.BELIEVE IT OR NOT SOMETIMES HATRED LEADS TO DESTRUCTION OF ONES OWN SELF.LOVE CAN MAKE OUR NATION GREAT AND PROUD.I AM PROUD BEING AN INDIAN THERE ARE TOLERANT INDIANS STILL EXISTING LIKE THESE.
WHAT AN IRONY ONE WHO TRIES TO BRING THE NATIONS CLOSER IS A CROOK,WHILE ONE WHO SPREADS HATRED AND POLARISE IS GREAT.WAH !WAH!

Aaakhash
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

First of nothing wrong in expressing their personal views. If ABVP has some guts, it shouldshould protest in front of Modijji and Advaniji's house! Why RSS script writer writing double standard dialogue for their so called future Rastra Rakhshak????

Subash Sondelker
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

We are in Democratic Country.Our Democracy give rights of Speech.Ms Ramya had shared her opinion and she has the rights.For this no need to run around the bush.grow up people.Why people not shown their anger when Ravi Shanker Ji praised Pakistan.Why because he is a supporter of RSS/BJP.Why these people did not question Our honorable Prime Minister when he gave Secret visit to Pakistan.Where were all these DESH PREMIS.

Kumar
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

what non sense ramya. first u praise your dad and find him!!!

Prajnya
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

yes Pakistan is not hell, u go to pakistan.. all the best.

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May 1,2020

Bengaluru, May 1: Karnataka has reported 11 new cases of coronavirus, taking the State's count to 576, informed the Health Department on Friday.

Out of the total COVID-19 cases found in the State, 235 people have been discharged and 22 people have died.

"11 new COVID-19 cases have been confirmed in Karnataka from April 30, 5 pm till noon today, taking the total number of cases to 576, which includes 22 deaths and 235 discharges," said the State government COVID-19 bulletin.

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Wafa Sultana
April 4,2020

Over the last couple of days when the world was occupied with unifying efforts to fight the deadly Covid19 pandemic, sections of Indian media provided viewers a familiar scapegoat – the Indian Muslims – who are often stereotyped as a community being constantly at loggerheads with the citizenry and the State. Biased media channels were quick to resort to blaming the entire Muslim community for the spread of the disease in the country, thanks to an ill-timed Tablighi Jamaat gathering at its international headquarters in Delhi’s Nizamuddin. Unsurprisingly, the opprobrium was also marked by a sudden spike in WhatsApp forwards of videos with people wearing skullcaps licking spoons and performing Sufi breathing rituals, suggesting some sort of wild conspiracy on the part of the community to spread the virus.  Some media channels were quick to formulate, hypothesize and provide loose definitions of a newly discovered form of Jihad i.e. ‘Corona Jihad ’ thereby vilifying the Islamic faith and its followers.

While the investigation on the culpability of the organizers of the Nizamuddin event is still ongoing, there is enough information to suggest that the meeting was held before any lockdown was in force, and the problem began when there was no way of getting people out once the curfew was announced. Be that as it may, there is little doubt that organizing a meet of such a scale when there is a global pandemic smacks of gross misjudgment, and definitely the organizers should be held accountable if laws or public orders were defied. Attendees who attempt to defy quarantine measures must be dealt with strictly. However, what is alarming is that the focus and narrative have now shifted from the unfortunate event at Nizamuddin to the Tablighi Jamaat itself.

For those not familiar with the Tablighi Jamaat, the organization was founded in 1926 in Mewat by scholar Maulana Mohammad Ilyas. The Jamaat’s main objective was to get Muslim youth to learn and practice pristine Islam shorn of external influences. This is achieved through individuals dedicating time for moral and spiritual upliftment secluded from the rest of the world for a brief period of time. There is no formal membership process. More senior and experienced participants typically travel from one mosque to other delivering talks on religious topics, inviting local youth to attend and then volunteer for a spiritual retreat for a fixed number of days to a mosque in a nearby town or village to present the message to their co-religionists. Contrary to ongoing Islamophobic rhetoric, the movement does not actively proselytize. The focus is rather on getting Muslims to learn the teachings and practices of Islam.  This grassroots India-based movement has now grown to almost all countries with substantial Muslim populations. Its annual meets, or ‘ijtemas’ are among the largest Islamic congregations in the world after the annual Haj. One of the reasons for its popularity and wide network in the subcontinent and wordwide is the fact that it has eschewed the need for scholarly intervention, focusing on peer learning of fundamental beliefs and practice rather than high-falutin ideological debates. The Tablighi Jamaat also distinguishes itself from other Islamic movements through its strictly apolitical nature, with a focus on individual self-improvement rather than political mobilization. Hardships and difficulty in the world are expected to be face through ‘sabr’ (patience) and ‘dua’ (supplication),  than through quest for political power or influence. In terms of ideology, it is very much based on mainstream Sunni Islamic principles derived from the Deobandi school.

So, why is all this background important in the current context? While biased media entities have expectedly brought out their Islamophobic paraphernalia out for full display, more neutral commentators have tried to paint the Tablighi Jamaat as a fringe group and have tried to distance it from 'mainstream Muslims'. While the intent is no doubt innocent, this is a trap we must not fall into. This narrative, unfortunately, is also gaining ground due to apathy some Muslims have for the group, accusing it of being “disconnected from the realities of the world”. Unlike other Muslim organizations and movements, the Tablighi Jamat, by virtue of its political indifference, does not boast of high-profile advocates and savvy spokespersons who can defend it in mainstream or social media.  The use of adjectives such as 'outdated' and 'orthodox' by liberal columnists to describe the Jamaat feeds into the malignant attempt to change the narrative from the control of the spread of the pandemic due to the Nizamuddin gathering to 'raison d'etre' of the organization itself.

A large mainstream religious group like the Tablighi Jamaat with nearly a hundred-year history, normally considered to be peaceful, apolitical and minding its own business is now suddenly being villainized owing to unfortunate circumstances. Biased media reactions filled with disgust and hate seem to feed the Indian public conscience with a danngerous misconception - to be a nominal Muslim is okay but being a practicing one is not.  For those committed to the truth and fighting the spread of Islamophobia, the temptation to throw the entire Tablighi Jamaat under the bus must be resisted.

The writer is a lawyer and research scholar at Qatar University. Her research interests include Islamic law and politics.

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zahoorahmed
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Saturday, 4 Apr 2020

great article! provides a great perspective on tableeg jamat

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New Delhi, Jul 7: Congress leader Dinesh Gundu Rao's wife Tabu Gundu Rao informed that four of their employees have tested positive for coronavirus.

"Well sadly our PA, one more Gunman and 2 house staff tested positive. We are all thankfully negative but in isolation and quarantine for 10 to 14 days from today, to check if we develop symptoms as we are primary contacts to them. Hopefully we should get through this," Tabu tweeted.

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