Bengaluru, Mar 11: Heated verbal exchange between Minister K Sudhakar and former Speaker K R Ramesh Kumar in the assembly over disqualification of 17 MLAs last year, continued to disrupt the proceedings on Wednesday, with both opposition and treasury benches pushing for a privilege motion and demanding action.
Chaotic scenes and adjournments marked the House proceedings, with both sides not ready to budge.
As the House met for the day, around 11 am, senior Minister K S Eshwarappa accusing Congress MLA Ramesh Kumar of using "expletive" during a debate last evening, demanded his apology and that he be kept out of the proceedings.
Sudhakar, against whom expletive was allegedly used by Kumar, said, the words used were unpardonable and he should be heard, as he has given notice.
Leader of Opposition Siddaramaiah then demanded that he be allowed to speak first as he had given notice on Tuesday itself.
The Congress leader on his part has accused Sudhakar of breaching Kumar's privilege by allegedly making derogatory remarks against him.
Intervening, Speaker Vishweshwar Hegde Kageri said he has received breach of privilege notice from both sides and would allow it only after the question hour as per rules.
Though Congress expressed its agreement with the Speaker about letting them raise the matter after question hour, BJP legislators including Ministers said, Ramesh Kumar should be suspended.
Pointing out that Kumar was not inside the House, some ruling party MLAs even called him "escapist" and demanded action against him.
Strongly objecting to it, Siddaramaiah questioned the ruling party's intentions in running the house smoothly.
As this was followed by heated arguments between both sides, the Speaker adjourned the House for 15 minutes.
When the house met after much delay at 12:55 pm, the chaos continued.
As the Speaker allowed Minister Jagadish Shettar to speak, who was requesting permission to raise a point, Siddaramaiah objected to it and said he had given notice first.
He said, "this is not correct, it looks like government doesn't want the House to function, they don't want discussion on the budget, they are purposely blocking the proceedings of the House".
However, some BJP MLAs reacted to this by shouting slogans "shame shame Ramesh Kumar".
As his repeated attempts to conduct the proceedings failed, the Speaker adjourned the House for lunch.
Sudhakar, while speaking during a special discussion on the Constitution on Tuesday evening had made critical remarks against the decision of Kumar, as speaker, to disqualify 17 Congress-JD(S) MLAs under the anti-defection law, including him.
Angered by this Kumar, who opposed discussion on the subject, amid heated argument between BJP and Congress members allegedly uttered the expletive, which aggravated the situation and had resulted in pandemonium in the House last evening.
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@ TRUE INDIAN, For every action you perform good or bad there is a reward, whether you like it or not it will come to you sooner or later. If it comes to you in this life its better, you can face it bravely other wise a re-birth and the carry forward of k
@ TRUE INDIAN, regarding you asked a poojary about re birth and his explanations about 7 births. Now a days you can find many fake doctors . If you really interested to find out don't ask a pundit who just perform his service like a compounder in dispensa
@ True Indian, I don't know whether hell or heaven exists as no one has seen it. But i believe there is re-birth as there are many re-birth stories happening around. you can google and read it. Punishment of hell or reward of heaven is only temporary, but
@Suresh
Which one u believe Narkam or Re-Birth.
Which book is Supreme, Vedas or Bhagwat gita
@Suresh
Why don't we remember our previous lives. How can we work off bad karma, if we don't recognize our previous mistakes....
If u see a beggar wallowing in the gutter, don't u dare help him, he is working off bad karma, if u help
In the heaven-hell concept, sinners go to Naraka (Hell). However, if one has bad karma, the rebirth concept says that he/she will suffer in his next birth.
How can both these theories be true when they contradict each other?
@Suresh
Thank you
its not my information, its God's word Quran says so:
Allah says: “Eat and drink, but be not excessive. Indeed, He does not like those who commit excess.” [Sûrah al-A`râf: 31]
@True Indian, Re birth exist, but the people re born do not remember their previous birth as it would create complications. God has made such a great arrangement. There are rarest of rare case where people remember their previous birth. Previous birth mem
@Suresh
in the heaven-hell concept, sinners go to Naraka (Hell). However, if one has bad karma, the rebirth concept says that he/she will suffer in his next birth.
How can both these theories be true when they contradict each other?
@Suresh
UR Shri Shri Ravishanker also says that Coming of Prophet is mentioned by name in Vedas, Plz check his video.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1msd0d_sri-sri-ravi-hindu-scholar-sha…-
@Suresh
Vedas doesent speak about punarjanm or samskaram. It speaks about swargam and narkam.
But upanishads and bhagwat gita speaks about samskaram and punarjanm.
If there is rebirth there wouldn't been swargam and narkam
@suresh
and if one dies then his karma is passed on to next birth.
Answer: if karma pass onto the next life. There wouldn't have been swargam and narkam. But vedas says about swargam and narkam.
Punarjanm means next life and no
@suresh
If it would have been re-birth. Vedas would have mentioned how many times.
But no where in vedas is mentioned how many times rebirth. Or birth
Punarjanm means next life. And not next re-birth.
Once i asked ur
@Suresh
Iam quoting from ur religion scripts hope it doesn't bores u.
Punarjanm means puna means next time or again. janm means life. i.e Next life. It doesn't mean re-birth, it means next life. which is in either swarg or narak.
@True Indian, Your information is good. Anything in excess is always harmful to health,even if you drink too much water is harmful, excess salt or sugar is also bad.
@suresh
Veg has its advantages and disadvantages too
Cucumbers
Toxicity
Cucumber contains small patches that taste bitter. These portions contain the extremely toxic tetracyclic triterpenoids or cucurbitacins compound. Exc
@True Indian, that's your version which is too lengthy and boring to read. I don't have patience to read so much. All I believe is good and bad deeds will be rewarded in this present life, and if one dies then his karma is passed on to next birth. That's
@Suresh
PUNARJANMA’MEANS LIFE AFTER DEATH. BUT ON EARTH, BUT IN THE HEAVEN.
@Suresh
How Many Punar-janm total
LIFE AFTER DEATH IN ISLAM
1. Live once in this world and then be resurrected in the Hereafter
It is mentioned in the Qur’an
How can ye reject the faith in Allah?
Seeing that ye were without life,
And He gave you life; Then will He cause you to die,
and will He again bring you to life; And again to Him will ye return.
(Al Qur’an 2:28)
Islam states that a human being comes into this world only once, and after he dies, he is again resurrected on the day of judgement. Depending on his deeds he will either dwell in heaven i.e. Paradise or he will dwell in hell.
2. This Life is a test for the hereafter
It is mentioned in the Qur’an
He who created Death and Life,
that He may try which of you is best in deed;
And He is the exalted in Might, oft- forgiving
(Al Qur’an 67:2)
This life that we lead in this world is a test for the hereafter. If we follow the commandments of the Almighty Creator and we pass the test, we shall enter Paradise i.e., which is Eternal Bliss. If we do not follow the commandments of our creator and fail the test then we shall be put into hell.
3. Full Recompense on the Day of Judgement:
It is mentioned in the Qur’an
Every soul shall have a test of death.
And only on the Day of Judgment shall
you be paid your full recompense.
Only he who is saved far from the fire and admitted to the Garden
will have attained the object (of life).
For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.
(Al Qur’an 3:185)
@TRUE INDIAN, KALKI AVTAR WILL COME IN THE END, not in the beginning. Kalyuga - 432,000 human years, as of 2016, its only 5118 years have passed. 426,882 years left. Its only in the end of Kaliyuga that Lord Kalki will incarnate, just to destroy and start
@suresh
By hindu scholar ved prakash
Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash says that this comes true only in
@TRUE INDIAN, No, this doesnt satisfy me. The point is numerous species of E.Coli live in gut of animals that can produce toxins that can penetrate human intestines and enter blood streams where it destroys red blood cells and eventually cause Kidney prob
@suresh
As i told both veg and non veg has its advantages and disadvantages.
I didnt say all veg foods are harmful. Which ever suits u. U can have anything.
I eat both veg and non veg. And alhamdulilla iam healthy.
@suresh
Have u heard Steak tartare. Its a raw beef. Which many people eat it. And its very easy to digest. pork meat is difficult to digest. Which is not allowed for muslims and christains.
Eating steak tartare needn’t be such a t
@ TRUE INDIAN, perhaps you have never tried eating raw veggies, only you might have read from somewhere or someone might have mislead you by saying raw vegetables are harmful and leads to gas, stomach pain. I normally eat raw cucumber, carrot, beet, tomat
@suresh
The dietary fiber content in raw vegetables, Is very hard to digest, leading to symptoms such as stomach pain and gas. Cooking makes the fiber in vegetables easier to digest.
Both veg and non-veg has its advantages and disadv
@True Indian, U say science has proven meat is hard to digest, at last you agreed to my point, Its the vegetarian foods that's easiest to digest, no problem even if u eat it raw or cooked.
@True Indian, For you it seems like the most important part of body is a pointed teeth and not the brain. Actually you are giving emphasis on meat and teeth, but do you know the scientific explanation you are giving also tells that humans never knew about
@suresh
Science has proven that. Pork is one of the most difficult to digest.
@suresh
Good to see that u some what agreeing my point. God knows that human being cannot digest raw food, they have to cook, thats why he has given 2 legs and 2 hands. Or else he would have given us four legs.
Tigers teeth is all pointed
@True Indian, your logic is God gave pointed teeth you have to eat like animals eat, then going by same logic why don't you eat RAW flesh of animals,? I tell you becoz god has given animals the intestines and enzymes to digest RAW flesh. Can you use your
@rahul
Not only pork, the animal which eats non-veg, is not allowed to eat.
@Rahul
Better Meats to Eat
Instead of “the other white meat”, let’s look at some meats that are protein-rich and known to be health-promoting. I’m talking about high quality protein that is not only tasty but very nutritious.
@RAHUL.
We Don't eat Pork (Suvvar)because, it is the only animal on earth, which eats its own shit. we are not shit eater.
Now science has proved that, this is the only animal which carries lot of diseases.
This animal go
I really don't Understand ur Logic.
God has given Pointed as well as flat teeth, To eat Veg and Non-Veg.
If he wanted to eat Only veg, Why did he Give us Pointed teeth. He would have given Flat teeth Only.
If God has no problem, Why u people have Problems.
True Indian To sum up all, we have acquired most perfect body is. Human form only after being born and dead thousand of times in to different creatures. our human life is there to come out of this life and death cycle and attain moksha merging with god, just like water has to merge into sea. so the purpose of eating food is to keep our body and soul together and not for sense gratification. just for tongue enjoyment why do we need to eat meat. Human life is meant for Austerity, purify our existence,and develop love for god. As told in scriptures 1 no meat eating, 2 No gambling, 3 No intoxication ( not even coffee and tea), 4 No illicit sex ( sex outside marriage) By following these 4 principles we are freeing yourself from karmic bondage reactions. In the end I would say Lead a religious life , pray 5 times a day, refrain from sinful activities, mercy, cleanliness, austerity and truthfulness.
True Indian, Hindus offering animal sacrifice at Kali temple. For those Tamasic people who cannot give up Meat, for them on Amavasya day. they have option they have to take lesser animal like goat, take it outside village. where no other people around and they chant \ MAM SA KHADATITI MAMSAH\" i.e whatever I am doing to you, you can do to me in my next life. So when the animal is sacrificed this mantra is recited in his ears, You are giving your life, so in your next life you will get an opportunity of becoming human being. And I who am killing you now will become an animal, and you kill me. So one day the person will wake up and stop this."
True Indian, Things which we eat are mostly fruits, vegetables, fruits are grown by plant to be eaten so the birds, animals eat it and spread the seeds far and wide for reproduce. Just like a banyan tree has millions of seeds falling on ground but it doesn't grow into new plant. why?, coz The fruit has to be eaten by a bird, pass into the birds intestine and only when the bird droppings generate into a new plant. Even food grains are never cut when they are green. Harvested only when they die and become brown. So where is the sin. we have to perform pooja to a tree if it has to cut down otherwise it amounts to a great Sin.
@True Indian, Less painful for plants too, you can go for Halal cutting of fruits, vegetables and plants in a Halal way, as you said its less painful for animals, so it works same with plants too. Let's have Halal vegetables more Eco friendly.
@True Indian, Now people have become more aware about Dairy Industries. Due to this awareness, Soya milk, Tofu,coconut milk are becoming popular.
@suresh
Separation
On a factory farm, cow’s milk is not intended for baby cows – it’s intended for humans. Therefore, baby calves are not allowed to nurse. They are taken from their mothers as soon as two hours after birth, and are e
@Suresh
\Does man think that WE Cannot assemble his bones? Nay, WE are able to put Together in perfect order The very tips of his fingers.\"
ALQUR'AN75:3-4
Science came to know now. That ones finger does not match with another.
@suresh.
Question
You have to choose your food which is less harming, less painful,
Answer
Then i think. U have to go for halal foods. Which has no pain at all. Plants still feel pain.
@TRUE INDIAN,
If an animal dies its baby lives like orphan, the person who made this baby an orphan is a sinner.
If a plant is cut, it grows new one and its seeds (baby plant ) also grow into new plant. here no sin is committed.
Regar
@Suresh
Plants have lesser life than animals, they can grow new one, but animals if you cut them they die.
answer:
But if it's die, its baby will grow. And in islam, Even milking Cow or goat is not allowed to slaughter, After it
@Suresh
Worship him alone the Creator and not his creation.
then it will be like u Worshipping me and iam worshipping u. Because God has created u and me, To worship u and me has no logic at all.
@TRUE INDIAN,
EARTH, SUN OR MOON, tulsi, banyan,cobra, anything that is useful and help us in sustaining life on earth we respect it as God and worship it and i don't think God will be unhappy.
For eg. if God has created you and god has cr
@true indian,
Shani pooja or any pooja its for you to experience, you should have faith other wise whatever pooja you do its all waste. Just like how you perform namaz 5 times, if you cannot become good human being, then whats the use of 5times praye
@TRUE INDIAN,
Whats the use of zam-zam & your holy stone from heaven, when you say there is only one unseen god.
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