In the beginning of January 2020 two very disturbing events were reported from Pakistan. One was the attack on Nankana Sahib, the holy shrine where Sant Guru Nanak was born. While one report said that the place has been desecrated, the other stated that it was a fight between two Muslim groups. Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan condemned the incident and the main accused Imran Chisti was arrested. The matter related to abduction and conversion of a Sikh girl Jagjit Kaur, daughter of Pathi (One who reads Holy Guru Granth Sahib in Gurudwara) of the Gurudwara. In another incident one Sikh youth Ravinder Singh, who was out on shopping for his marriage, was shot dead in Peshawar.
While these condemnable attacks took place on the Sikh minority in Pakistan, BJP was quick enough to jump to state that it is events like this which justify the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA). Incidentally CAA is the Act which is discriminatory and relates to citizenship with Religion, which is not as per the norms of Indian constitution. There are constant debates and propaganda that population of Hindus has come down drastically in Pakistan and Bangla Desh. Amit Shah, the Home minister stated that in Pakistan the population of Hindus has come down from 23% at the time of partition to 3.7% at present. And in Bangla Desh it has come down from 22% to present 8%.
While not denying the fact that the religious minorities are getting a rough deal in both these countries, the figures which are presented are totally off the mark. These figures don’t take into consideration the painful migrations, which took place at the time of partition and formation of Bangla Desh later. Pakistan census figures tell a different tale. Their first census was held in 1951. As per this census the overall percentage of Non Muslim in Pakistan (East and West together) was 14.2%, of this in West Pakistan (Now Pakistan) it was 3.44 and in Eat Pakistan it was 23.2. In the census held in Pakistan 1998 it became 3.72%. As far as Bangla Desh is concerned the share of Non Muslims has gone down from 23.2 (1951) to 9.6% in 2011.
The largest minority of Pakistan is Ahmadis, (https://minorityrights.org/country/pakistan/) who are close to 4 Million and are not recognised as Muslims in Pakistan. In Bangla Desh the major migrations of Hindus from Bangla Desh took place in the backdrop of Pakistan army’s atrocities in the then East Pakistan.
As far as UN data on refugees in India it went up by 17% between 2016-2019 and largest numbers were from Tibet and Sri Lanka. (https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/migration/publication…)
The state of minorities is in a way the index of strength of democracy. Most South Asian Countries have not been able to sustain democratic values properly. In Pakistan, the Republic began with Jinnah’s classic speech where secularism was to be central credo of Pakistan. This 11th August speech was in a way what the state policy should be, as per which people of all faiths are free to practice their religion. Soon enough the logic of ‘Two Nation theory” and formation of Pakistan, a separate state for Muslim took over. Army stepped in and dictatorship was to reign there intermittently. Democratic elements were suppressed and the worst came when Zia Ul Haq Islamized the state in collusion with Maulanas. The army was already a strong presence in Pakistan. The popular formulation for Pakistan was that it is ruled by three A’s, Army, America and Allah (Mullah).
Bangla Desh had a different trajectory. Its very formation was a nail in the coffin of ‘two nation theory’; that religion can be the basis of a state. Bangla Desh did begin as a secular republic but communal forces and secular forces kept struggling for their dominance and in 1988 it also became Islamic republic. At another level Myanmar, in the grip of military dictatorship, with democratic elements trying to retain their presence is also seeing a hard battle. Democracy or not, the army and Sanghas (Buddhist Sang has) are strong, in Myanmar as well. The most visible result is persecution of Rohingya Muslims.
Similar phenomenon is dominating in Sri Lanka also where Budhhist Sanghas and army have strong say in the political affairs, irrespective of which Government is ruling. Muslim and Christian minorities are a big victim there, while Tamils (Hindus, Christians etc.) suffered the biggest damage as ethnic and religious minorities. India had the best prospect of democracy, pluralism and secularism flourishing here. The secular constitution, the outcome of India’s freedom struggle, the leadership of Gandhi and Nehru did ensure the rooting of democracy and secularism in a strong way.
India so far had best democratic credentials amongst all the south Asian countries. Despite that though the population of minorities rose mainly due to poverty and illiteracy, their overall marginalisation was order of the day, it went on worsening with the rise of communal forces, with communal forces resorting to identity issues, and indulging in propaganda against minorities.
While other South Asian countries should had followed India to focus more on infrastructure and political culture of liberalism, today India is following the footsteps of Pakistan. The retrograde march of India is most visible in the issues which have dominated the political space during last few years. Issues like Ram Temple, Ghar Wapasi, Love Jihad, Beef-Cow are now finding their peak in CAA.
India’s reversal towards a polity with religion’s identity dominating the political scene was nicely presented by the late Pakistani poetess Fahmida Riaz in her poem, Tum bhi Hum Jaise Nikle (You also turned out to be like us). While trying to resist communal forces has been an arduous task, it is becoming more difficult by the day. This phenomenon has been variously called, Fundamentalism, Communalism or religious nationalism among others. Surely it has nothing to do with the religion as practiced by the great Saint and Sufi traditions of India; it resorts mainly to political mobilization by using religion as a tool.
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@TRUE INDIAN
Food
Plants have lesser life than animals, they can grow new one, but animals if you cut them they die.
Emotions are absent in plant.
SUPPOSE we grow Hair, nails on our body, but if you cut hair you grow new hair, if
@True Indian,
WE KNOW WHO IS GURU & their qualities. There can be many wolf in sheeps clothing, but that doesnt mean all are fake or evil, so our scriptures caution us while selecting guru for ourselves.
1)A guru or a saint does not take money t
U people say sun is god, moon is god, earth is god.
is that mean Pakistan which is on earth is also God.
@Suresh
Don't make me God Plz. By thinking of this logic, Many sanyasis fools u, To make money, they say u have to make shani pooja or other pooja, Rapes poor Girls. Plz dont blind belief.
Coming to food.
Yes Killing Anima
once my parents met with tragic accident in mumbai, the auto in which they were travelling was hit head on with a truck, the truck driver fled away, my father bounced out of Auto, lying on the road unconscious with blood coming out of mouth, my mother jumped out of the auto with my younger brother who was kid then, and my mom cried for help, nobody came, she kept crying and it was evening, She was pleading for help in Tulu also, then suddenly a tempo driver who was passing by came for help, said, Akka, don't worry i will help, he took everyone to hospital, later my dad regained consciousness. He came to our house and then further we learnt that this person was a native of Mangalore and he resides at near the temple of our Kula-devi Godess on hearing my mom's plea he came to help. further he happened to be my father's elder brother's classmate. We were really thankful to his kind deed. A help came from 1000 kms away far far away to mumbai that too sent by mother godess. Else everybody was shrugging away to help my mother.
God comes in any form.
@TRUE INDIAN,
You fail to understand god's love.
See that woman was travelling and god came to help through you, the formless god enters a form (that is you) instructs your brain to give Lemon to the lady and curing her ailing child.
This i
GOD CREATED U. AND U R CREATING GOD'S IDOL. ITS A SIMPLE LOGIC.
Even sai baba used to say, Sabka maalik ek hai, Worship him only.
But u people started Worshiping him.
Once when i was travelling in a train. one family was in my boogie, one kid kept on vomiting in the train, i gave kid's mother a lemon. then her vomiting got stopped.
her mother told, tum hamare liye bhagwan ho. i told her, plz iam a common man, dont make me god.
this what is happening.
@TRUE INDIAN,
Killing is justified only if it happens by mistake, or food for survival.
Even Lord Rama's Father Dhasharath had to suffer and die grieving his beloved son Rama's seperation, This was becoz King Dhasharatha mistakenly killed
@Suresh
There is no my God and ur God, There is only one God, Even Jesus used to speak with God, in the cross. He used to say ya ilaahi, Even muslims also call ya ilaahi.
The God who gives life and take life. all Belongings to him on
@TRUE INDIAN,
first tell me are you follower of HINDUISM or ISLAM,
RIG VEDA QUOTES ARE MISINTERPRETED. No where in vedas it says sacrifice animals. Rig veda says its SIN,
VEDA ALSO SAYS THERE ARE 33 KOTI (TYPES/FORMS) OF SUPREME
@suresh
One day u will also say that. Idol worship is totally wrong.
Vedas says so. By doing idol worship. U will go into more darkness
Bhagavat Gita 7:19-21: \All those who do idol worship, All those who worship demigods
@Suresh
Ur again wrong my friend. its allowed in Hinduism
Rig Veda 10.86.14 [Indra speaks :] The worshippers dress for me fifteen (and) twenty bulls : I eat them and (become) fat, they fill both sides of my belly ;Indra is above all
Thats what iam saying. Without reading ur College Books, u wont get knowledge and will not pass the Graduation.
Last and final Book Quran is for Whole of the Humanity.
U point out a single error in Quran, It is 100% Correct.
Why many converts to islam. even tony blair's sister converted to islam.
Quran also states That killing a innocent Person, is as if he is killing the whole of humanity, but still u find terrorists who kills the innocent.
For us they are anti muslim. enemy of the islam.
U know Shankaracharya Sanjay dwivedi , Now known as Ahmed Pandit. Before he was hindu Shankaracharya. Before just for visit any Marriage function, he used to Get Money in crores.
After comparing both the religion, he Converted to islam, and leads a common life. and now he preaches islam.
@TRUE INDIAN,
IN HINDUISM, killing is SIN, in the name of god or in the name of food, or fun.
So killing, sacrificing by any is wrong. Those people who do it are totally wrong.
Even Nepal has banned the infamous Gadimai sacrifice ritual. Th
@Suresh
U don't want quotes from religious book.
How did u Graduate without the knowledge and books.
To play a Dvd player, There is a Instruction manual.
To use a mashing machine, There is also an instruction m
@Suresh
Quran 22:37: it is neither their meat nor their Blood that reaches Allah. We made them subject to u that u may magnify Allah for his Guidance to you.
And Quran 6:14: And it is he who Feeds but is not fed.
God asks
@TRUE INDIAN,
The term \TRYASTRIMSATI KOTI\" is misunderstood as 33crores (koti)
The term Koti in sanskrit has two meaning 1 is supreme & another is Crore. Its in translation error. its 33 supreme gods and not 33 crores god. And 33 crores gods h
@suresh
Total 33 million Gods, How can u pray and ask each and every god.
it's not God, it might be messenger. How can u Control ur God.
i have to Quote from vedas and all religious script, i cannot create my own stories.
@TRUE INDIAN, you have still not answered any of my questions. Please answer it honestly. don't give quotes from your books.
@TRUE FRIEND, don't give quotes lectures from Veda, Ravishankarji or koran or bible. As i am a lazy person and not interested in reading any books at all, I have read lots of books from Kg. to graduations. Now, no more books & quotes please.
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@Suresh
Genesis 17:3
Abram fell facedown, and Pray to God.
Book of numbers 20:6
And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon
TRUE INDIAN, When you find answers to below questions you will get answer for what you have asked.
Does your god really in need of your prayers 5 times?if you don't pray then what? what will happen to god? why he orders you to pray?
Does your god benefit from your prayers? does your god gets power from it?
Does your god requires blood transfusion every year and so you perform goat sacrifices?
Is your god Jealousy, angry god? that he tells you if you worship any other god than him, he will burn you in hell fire.
Do you really believe that there are 72 virgins for all your men. Then what about women, they too pray, how god will reward them, where will they go after death? PONDER over this questions.
Do you really believe that God almighty makes mistakes at the time of creations, and he keeps sending messengers one by one and finally he rectifies all mistakes and sends final messenger? Do you think god is human being to make mistakes?
If you people wait for day of final judgement, what about all those who are born and dead before your Islam religion was formed, Its not their mistake they were born before your prophet gave the Holy message from god. How whether god will give them hell or heaven.?
Instead of asking me to use brain, you use it and try to find out why.
Regarding Lord shiva, He knows everything, Ganesha created by parvati and so he cut the head of Ignorance, pride and replaced it with head of wisdom & humility.
Lord rama, Ma sita, knew everything since begininng, so they never objected to whatever was happening. Even Ravan was Brahmin pandit, great Astrologer, he very well knew that Ram was Lord Vishnu himself, he wanted to attain salvation at the hands of Lord Ram, not only this he wanted salvation for his entire Rakshasa Clan so he pitted everyone against Lord Rama and got killed by Lord himself, thus everyone got Moksha (salvation) in the end.
Hope you understand everything now.
@suresh
My question is if shiva couldnt recognise his own son ganapathi. How can he recognise. If he is god he should know everything.
Even lord ram couldnt save his wife sita from kidnap. How can he save u.
U should use u
Dear Suresh,
Honestly U have to read and ponder on below.. Muslims just want the hindus to wake up and understand the REALITY. Dont make Mockery of God knowingly or unknowingly ... by giving illogical shapes ... Please learn about God and Ponder and reflect more on what God says in different religious scriptures.. which will benefit U and the hateful Society..
His form cannot be seen, no one sees Him with the eye - (Shwetashvatara upanishad 4:20) - Worshiping man made object is a SIN ?
Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship DEMIGODS (materialistic - others besides TRUE GOD) - Bhagwad Geeta 7:20
He is body less and pure - Yajurveda 40:8 (Dont worship objects)
They sink DEEPER in DARKNESS those who worship Sambhuti i.e created things\ (Yajurveda 40:9)
Do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine ONE, Praise Him alone - Rigveda 8:1:1)
Worshiping idols is not allowed in hindu scriptures itself...U need to study and ponder on your own scripture.. to recognise and come near to the TRUTH."
AHMED,USA,- I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR YOUR THOUGHTS & WORDS OF WISDOM. We should be tolerant & respect all religions. The god that made EARTH, SUN & MOON and everything is the same. Only the followers are different.
TRUE INDIAN - All Hindus know GOD. Eg. Just like a person can be a FATHER to a child, brother to a sister, SON to Parents, Husband to a women, Friend for someone. Here the person is same only his work and relation with different people will be different. You call him in whatever name you want. Same way the GOD whom you pray and whom Christians or Jews or paresis or Hindus pray are SAME. the way of worshiping him is different. Every one may be right in their own way. So stop arguing and let people follow what their heart says is right. Don't mislead them.
TRUE INDIAN - God has given you Teeth, but i guess you don't bite others. Becoz you know its uses. Same way GOD has given you BRAIN, why don't you USE it.
Killing an animal for FOOD is fine. but killing an animal for fun or in the name of god is a great unpardonable sin.
PRAKASH SHETTY (NAME CHANGED), TRUE INDIAN, just Google out \ RIVERS OF BLOOD - IN DAKA\" and read how the blood was flowing down the road after bakrid, you will come to know how dirty the road was with blood and dead animal carcasses everywhere. It is worst than Idols immersed in rivers & ponds.
TRUE INDIAN - finally you say, you pray 5 times a day, Still there is no peace on earth lots & lots of violence going on , just imagine. Can you pray for world peace, and will your god answer your prayers?"
Please this practice should be stopped, they don't have any right to spoil the atmosphere/ponds/rivers with dirty idols which they worship with great respect and finally throwing in to the water this is not accepted either these dirty idols should be buried or to be dumped in the municipality garbage.
Ahmed USA
Dont U know that Idol worship is a great sin and will never be acceptable with lord of the worlds... even Non muslims are our brothers in humanity. We should convey the TRUTH without insulting... that's right. but where did anybody hurt here.
The commentor is asking the non muslims to reflect on the vedas verse and know the reality of idol worship...
If U like to hide the reality of worshiping ONE GOD which is also mentioned in hindu scriptures... U want others not know about the TRUTH.
What the comment below says is that 'there is no image of God' and thats the TRUTH.
if U think that as a Muslim keeping quite on this and never tell our brothers in humanity of the TRUTH... Then the media which is propagating the other way of what God is, fooling all the people who doesnt care for who is worthy of Worship...
Use your intellect and look for the TRUTH... it might hurt a little but your deep study will know the REALITY of worshiping idols and living in darkness of the TRUTH.
MAY ALLAH GUIDE THOSE WHO R HONEST IN LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH. ALLAH KNOWS BEST.
I would say immature journalism must use some professional ethics .it is very sad to see fellow Muslims mocking others faith .it is the main reason for all the mess .we must respect others faith. No religion is perfect .every religion has its own shortcomings. Salafist mentality of journalism is really not good as it divides the society .where ever you go .we are now seeing islamophobia.. For god sake stop quoting zakirs quotes. We have lot of other things to work .we have 1000+++ short comings. Empowerment is not just population increase .we need to work on all the aspects . grow up mr abd,ponder and true Indian.
@suresh.
Harming and torturing animals is great sin. But for food u can slaughter it by halal method. Where animals feel zero pain.
In uae. Camel is the national animal. If u acciedent it on road. Is the same offence as if u accident
@Suresh.
Why god has given sharp teeth. Is it for time pass. If he wants us to eat only veg. He would have given only flat teeth. U talk as if u havent killed a single mosquito.
For muslims god is controlling us. We have to pray 5 ti
TRUE INDIAN, false indian, murty, non-murthy, PONDER-wander,,AHAD-vahad,PK-chikey,
So our's is blind belief and what about yours? Whats so great in Goat sacrificing, for what? Is it playing holi with blood of animals, You mean to say your god loves it.
Did your god create these animals for you to kill them, What a logic !
Venki
U still dont understand that one line? please reflect on it why VEDAS says NA TASYA Pratima ASTI....
Na Tasya Pratima Asti - There is no image of God...
Please look for the TRUTH and the Truth behind idol worship... Wake up guys, Know your CREATOR ... Dont worship man made idols and objects.. its making fool of yourself and deviating you from the truth and the true God.
There is no God but ALLAH and Muhammad Pbuh is the last and final messenger of ALLAH.
QURAN is the final revelation of ALLAH...
QURAN is for all MANKIND
and its NOT just for muslims...
Dear NON MUSLIMs...
ALLAH has given intellect to humans and we should use it to understand who is worthy of worship... QURAN challenges the mankind .. to look, Ponder, recite and REFLECT on what QURAN says... Try it ... U will be successful in finding contentment in your heart and life.
''No Sathya Prathima Asthi''.........God Has No image ( Idol ,photo......etc )
BLIND BELIEF, FEEL SORRY FOR NON-MUSLIMS.
THEY DONNO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GETTING BRAIN WASHED FROM POOJARY'S
ALHAMDULLAHI RABBIL AALAMEEN. All Praise Be To Allah THE LORD OF THE WORLDS who has blessed us with beautiful religion of ISLAM.
these idols can not protect themselves how it can protect you O people.
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