Pakistan is not hell; we should not hate... I won't apologize for my views: Ramya

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August 23, 2016

Bengaluru, Aug 23: Actress-turned-politician Ramya, who exposed the double standard of saffron forces while dealing with Pakistan, has made it clear that she would not apologies for saying that Pakistan is not hell.

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“I respectful disagree, but Pakistan is not hell,” reiterated the former Mandya MP and Congress leader, today, after news broke that a lawyer has filed a complaint against her in court, asking a case of sedition be filed against her.

Ramya said she won't apologize, either, as she has no reason to, and hasn't done anything wrong.

"I don't have any ego at all and in any given incident, I would have apologised, but if I do in this case, the larger cause we're fighting for would go," Ramya explained.

The Kannada actress - whose real name is Divya Spandana - first indicated she thinks Pakistan may not quite be hell, when she recently addressed a women's rally in Mandya.

Some people protested because they believed her statements were a direct response to a comment Union Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar made last week when he equated visiting Pakistan with visiting hell.

A pro-BJP lawyer in Kodagu has registered a civil case against Ramya under IPC sections 124 (A) and 511 - the first one is to do with sedition.

"It's really sad that there is such a situation in the country today…Politicians want to polarise and spread hatred. Just because borders separate us we shouldn't hate others" Ramya said told a news agency, referring to the complaint filed against her.

"I'm free to express myself, am I not? Everyone is entitled to their views and that is what democracy is about. You can't force your ideology on anyone," Ramya said.

"It's freedom of speech, it's also our duty to speak on inclusiveness and peace. Curbing freedoms is wrong in democracy," she added.

The former popular actress had at the rally talked about Pakistan's hospitality. At the time she had just returned from visiting Pakistan for the SAARC Youth Summit.

On August 16, Parrikar reportedly said: "Our soldiers sent back five terrorists yesterday. Going to Pakistan is the same as going to hell," Parrikar said, according to ANI. "Pakistan has encouraged terrorism, and now they are facing consequences of that policy," he also said.

Twitter juxtaposed the two comments and all hell broke loose. Ramya was trolled. And then a gentleman from a Karnataka village took it upon himself to save the nation from anyone saying good things about Pakistan.

"I went there (Pakistan) for the SAARC Youth Summit. I spoke about peace, harmony and unity in diversity. When I got back, I was asked how Pakistan was and I said that the people there are just like us, and that we were treated very well. There was a lot of respect," Ramya had responded yesterday.

The Congress member repeated several times today that she stands by what she said. "I don't think I'm wrong. I also love Bangladesh, Sri Lanka. Of course I won't leave India, it's my home and I am not going to leave my dogs," Ramya said, clearly stating her priorities.

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abdul khader
 - 
Wednesday, 24 Aug 2016

There is nothing wrong about the sentence which she said. she told for the helpening nature of the pakistani peoples

Sameer
 - 
Wednesday, 24 Aug 2016

Naren, guruwe ishtu dina nim sahodarana murder aith alwa awaga ellidiya? Yako comment madilla? Current irlilwa magu? Eevaga nev harsida deshada hesru banth alwa adkey bandi ya neenu?

Abbu Beary
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Oho hauda naren Putta?? yenu ivathu sanje comment maadtha iddi ? Bitti enne siglilva? aa mele go saagata mugitha? HJV kadeyavru nodidra... adirli aa \hara hara jai jai\" nimmannella anti-social element antha karedu bitnalla!!... che che.."

Naren kotian
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Pakistanis in Mangalore started expressing love towards their country ..after all it is ISI which funds their third rated jihadi activities against india in the name of smuggling killings and terrorism ..hahaha...nowonder khangrace favours and she is sticking to her words ...becoz Muslims vote avrige beku ...if she start blaming pak ..votes sigalla .haha

Ramya fan
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Why should Ramya hate Pakistan? She is abused only and only by Sangh Parivar activists. Are they Pakistanis?

She will hate only those who are trying to destroy India and constantly targeting Indian women and calling all true indians as anti-nationals.

Rikaz
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

She appreciated Pakistani people....nothing wrong in it....

fathima
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Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

Ramya spoke about normal pakistanis,how they treated her.There is nothing wrong in it.We as Indian should be tolerant towards our neighbours.Polarising this issue makes us very weak and insecure.The way she was interviewed in NDTV .Her answers were crisp and to the point.BELIEVE IT OR NOT SOMETIMES HATRED LEADS TO DESTRUCTION OF ONES OWN SELF.LOVE CAN MAKE OUR NATION GREAT AND PROUD.I AM PROUD BEING AN INDIAN THERE ARE TOLERANT INDIANS STILL EXISTING LIKE THESE.
WHAT AN IRONY ONE WHO TRIES TO BRING THE NATIONS CLOSER IS A CROOK,WHILE ONE WHO SPREADS HATRED AND POLARISE IS GREAT.WAH !WAH!

Aaakhash
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

First of nothing wrong in expressing their personal views. If ABVP has some guts, it shouldshould protest in front of Modijji and Advaniji's house! Why RSS script writer writing double standard dialogue for their so called future Rastra Rakhshak????

Subash Sondelker
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

We are in Democratic Country.Our Democracy give rights of Speech.Ms Ramya had shared her opinion and she has the rights.For this no need to run around the bush.grow up people.Why people not shown their anger when Ravi Shanker Ji praised Pakistan.Why because he is a supporter of RSS/BJP.Why these people did not question Our honorable Prime Minister when he gave Secret visit to Pakistan.Where were all these DESH PREMIS.

Kumar
 - 
Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

what non sense ramya. first u praise your dad and find him!!!

Prajnya
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Tuesday, 23 Aug 2016

yes Pakistan is not hell, u go to pakistan.. all the best.

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May 24,2020

Bengaluru, May 24: A couple got married in Bengaluru today, even as Karnataka government has announced a complete lockdown on Sundays, as part of the fourth phase of COVID-19 shutdown till the end of this month.

The marriage ceremony on this Sunday was possible thanks to a clarification given by the state government for marriages, which has been already scheduled for May 24 and May 31 to be exempted from the Sunday complete lockdown.

At today's wedding, the rituals were performed with compliance of all guidelines including ensuring social distancing and capping the number of guests at 50.

Satish, the groom said, "Government has allowed weddings with up to 50 people in attendance but we decided to invite only 25 people to the ceremony".

Meanwhile, in the Honnali Honnali area of Davanagere, BJP MLA MP Renukacharya distributed masks to three newly-wed couples.

As per an earlier advisory issued by the State government more than 50 guests, no air conditioning, and the consumption of liquor and paan are among the guidelines to be followed for holding weddings in the state. Also, people aged above 65 and below 10 as well as pregnant women have been barred from participating in the event.

According to the advisory, sanitisers should be provided at the entry and other appropriate places at the venue. Also, thermal screening of all persons shall be conducted at the entry of the venue. The scanner should be held 3-15 cms away from a person's forehead.

Apart from this, the venue shall be "clean and hygienic," and a "nodal person shall be identified for overseeing the arrangements and coordination at the venue." Also, a list of attendees with contact details has to be maintained and all guests should have downloaded Aarogya Setu app.

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March 15,2020

Bengaluru, Mar 15: The week-long ban imposed by the Karnataka Government from Saturday is yet to get a total response in the State to fight against the spread of killer disease Coronavirus (COVID-19).

The ban has witnessed a considerable reduction in the travelling public by Bus and train. Bus terminal and Railway stations wore desert look or only a very few public travelling. KSRTC, which was maintaining service for every 10 minutes once between the State Capital and to City of Palaces, was forced to cancel most of the service due to very little patronage. 

"We were left with no option but to cancel the fleet since there are no passengers," sources at the KSRTC Bus terminal told media persons.

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Ram Puniyani
February 10,2020

Noam Chomsky is one of the leading peace workers in the world. In the wake of America’s attack on Vietnam, he brought out his classic formulation, ‘manufacturing consent’. The phrase explains the state manipulating public opinion to have the public approve of it policies—in this case, the attack of the American state on Vietnam, which was then struggling to free itself from French colonial rule.

In India, we are witness to manufactured hate against religious minorities. This hatred serves to enhance polarisation in society, which undermines India’s democracy and Constitution and promotes support for a Hindu nation. Hate is being manufactured through multiple mechanisms. For example, it manifests in violence against religious minorities. Some recent ghastly expressions of this manufactured hate was the massive communal violence witnessed in Mumbai (1992-93), Gujarat (2002), Kandhamal (2008) and Muzaffarnagar (2013). Its other manifestation was in the form of lynching of those accused of having killed a cow or consumed beef. A parallel phenomenon is the brutal flogging, often to death, of Dalits who deal with animal carcasses or leather.

Yet another form of this was seen when Shambhulal Regar, indoctrinated by the propaganda of Hindu nationalists, burned alive Afrazul Khan and shot the video of the heinous act. For his brutality, he was praised by many. Regar was incited into the act by the propaganda around love jihad. Lately, we have the same phenomenon of manufactured hate taking on even more dastardly proportions as youth related to Hindu nationalist organisations have been caught using pistols, while police authorities look on.

Anurag Thakur, a BJP minster in the central government recently incited a crowd in Delhi to complete his chant of what should happen to ‘traitors of the country...” with a “they should be shot”. Just two days later, a youth brought a pistol to the site of a protest at Jamia Millia Islamia university and shouted “take Azaadi!” and fired it. One bullet hit a student of Jamia. This happened on 30 January, the day Nathuram Godse had shot Mahatma Gandhi in 1948. A few days later, another youth fired near the site of protests against the CAA and NRC at Shaheen Bagh. Soon after, he said that in India, “only Hindus will rule”.

What is very obvious is that the shootings by those associated with Hindu nationalist organisations are the culmination of a long campaign of spreading hate against religious minorities in India in general and against Muslims in particular. The present phase is the outcome of a long and sustained hate campaign, the beginning of which lies in nationalism in the name of religion; Muslim nationalism and Hindu nationalism. This sectarian nationalism picked up the communal view of history and the communal historiography which the British introduced in order to pursue their ‘divide and rule’ policy.

In India what became part of “social common sense” was that Muslim kings had destroyed Hindu temples, that Islam was spread by force, and that it is a foreign religion, and so on. Campaigns, such as the one for a temple dedicated to the Hindu god Rama to be built at the site where the Babri masjid once stood, further deepened the idea of a Muslim as a “temple-destroyer”. Aurangzeb, Tipu Sultan and other Muslim kings were tarnished as the ones who spread Islam by force in the subcontinent. The tragic Partition, which was primarily due to British policies, and was well-supported by communal streams also, was entirely attributed to Muslims. The Kashmir conflict, which is the outcome of regional, ethnic and other historical issues, coupled with the American policy of supporting Pakistan’s ambitions of regional hegemony, (which also fostered the birth of Al-Qaeda), was also attributed to the Muslims.

With recurring incidents of communal violence, these falsehoods went on going deeper into the social thinking. Violence itself led to ghettoisation of Muslims and further broke inter-community social bonds. On the one hand, a ghettoised community is cut off from others and on the other hand the victims come to be presented as culprits. The percolation of this hate through word-of-mouth propaganda, media and re-writing of school curricula, had a strong impact on social attitudes towards the minorities.

In the last couple of decades, the process of manufacturing hate has been intensified by the social media platforms which are being cleverly used by the communal forces. Swati Chaturvedi’s book, I Am a Troll: Inside the Secret World of the BJP’s Digital Army, tells us how the BJP used social media to spread hate. Whatapp University became the source of understanding for large sections of society and hate for the ‘Other’, went up by leaps and bounds. To add on to this process, the phenomenon of fake news was shrewdly deployed to intensify divisiveness.

Currently, the Shaheen Bagh movement is a big uniting force for the country; but it is being demonised as a gathering of ‘anti-nationals’. Another BJP leader has said that these protesters will indulge in crimes like rape. This has intensified the prevalent hate.

While there is a general dominance of hate, the likes of Shambhulal Regar and the Jamia shooter do get taken in by the incitement and act out the violence that is constantly hinted at. The deeper issue involved is the prevalence of hate, misconceptions and biases, which have become the part of social thinking.

These misconceptions are undoing the amity between different religious communities which was built during the freedom movement. They are undoing the fraternity which emerged with the process of India as a nation in the making. The processes which brought these communities together broadly drew from Gandhi, Bhagat Singh and Ambedkar. It is these values which need to be rooted again in the society. The communal forces have resorted to false propaganda against the minorities, and that needs to be undone with sincerity.

Combating those foundational misconceptions which create hatred is a massive task which needs to be taken up by the social organisations and political parties which have faith in the Indian Constitution and values of freedom movement. It needs to be done right away as a priority issue in with a focus on cultivating Indian fraternity yet again.

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